Interviewer:
So Dr. SEBI was someone that was special to the community and I think the truth deserves to be heard. There have been speculations about his death and I’ve spoken to Usha about it and I asked her and I want to ask you here, and whatever your answer is it’s okay. There… the
reports came in after he was arrested and locked up that he died of pneumonia.Now, of course a lot of people aren’t believing that because you know Dr. Sebi was a man that a lot of people wanted, they wanted to take over. They wanted the money, the notoriety, everything that he had worked for, and so is it true that he died from pneumonia, because you said you spoke to your father the night before he died.
Usha:
I spoke to him about three days before he had passed. And hmm [Interviewer: Okay] you know and I wouldn’t be able to say from that conversation that he passed from pneumonia, um no that’s not my belief mom may attest to something different but uh no not-not-not based on the information that I’ve obtained.
Interviewer:
So he wasn’t coughing. He didn’t have problems breathing? When you spoke to him three days prior to the report of his death.
Usha:
He was cold and so yes there was a cough. I did hear a cough [interviewer: okay] but he was cold he was like he was freezing in there and he couldn’t take it anymore. He said he had been on a two-week fast at the time and so he was feeling low and he needed something and you can tell you know um but I wouldn’t be able to attest that he died of pneumonia. Besides we had a confession and so no I don’t believe that it.
Interviewer:
You had a confession?
Usha:
Absolutely, absolutely.Interviewer:
A confession as to like how he actually died or…
Usha:
as to how someone participated in his death at a while someone participated in his death but we don’t want to speak names, times, things of that nature because it’s an ongoing investigation right now and I’m I’m very happy that that person came to us to let us know what their part was in it and why and we appreciate that but it’s a it’s an ongoing investigation as to what happened and no, it wasn’t pneumonia.
Interviewer:
Wow.
Usha:
It may have been the symptom of from what was done, no doubt, but there was intrusive factors.
Interviewer:
This is the first time I’m hearing this. I mean we’ve had conversations and you, she would not speak of this and I and I expressed to her that I would ask on the air but I didn’t know that she was going to say this and this is um, Wow. So, as rumors were spread about him being murdered, this was a murder.
Usha:
In my book.
Interviewer:
Okay and Ma’a, may I ask, like did you. I mean you don’t have to give out any information of course because it’s an ongoing investigation but had you had spoken to him as well when he was [Ma’a: I hadn’t] locked up.No, okay. So your information that she got it was from Usha being in contact with Dr. SEBI, [Ma’a: exactly]. And how did you take the news when you found out. Did you believe it?
Ma’a:
No, it’s hard to believe. To find out. It just her speaking on it now. It’s hard to believe that. It’s hard to believe that you know that… that kind of thing but there’s with this and with this investigation there’s evidence so it’s still hard to believe and it’s still like is still so hurting it’s just painful the whole thing is painful.It’s real painful like the kind of pain you just can’t even believe exist. It’s kind of every time just the thought of it that way for SEBI you know like okay. Why? Why would you… but that’s what we always say why right? And those people whoever it is.
Interviewer:
Interesting enough he was locked up with another person I want to say was it Pablo? Or if I’m not mistaken and he was released, I guess a week later or a couple of days later after Dr. SEBI had passed?Just walked out like so it was literally two weeks of those two being locked up together and Dr. SEBI was stripped of his cash and every single thing and we saw the video of him being taken away and he was on the back of the truck and he looked you could tell he was just he was just over it what was going on and when I saw the video of him would it look like to me of appearing to kind of call out those who were I guess betraying him.
Usha:
Yeah it’s a very sad video to see. It’s a very sad thing to see because you can see that he was broken. You can see that he was hurt, you know. Not broken as a man but his heart was broken because he has a big heart he’s like me when you’re betrayed and you find out someone is doing something behind your back that you have no idea about that hurts it hurts. And it breaks your heart when he finds out when you find out that people are doing things against you to prevent you from sharing what you share with the world and give what you give and to give yourself. To give of yourself your whole heart. I don’t care about this money thing forget this money thing. The product and selling it in the internet world.He gave of himself him we as his children we got the short end of the stick because daddy had to be the one to be out there to push this to talk about this we have to understand that but we got the short end of the stick we had to allow that because we know the importance of this in the fact that he had to give this message so to sit back and see his hard work. Everything he did, everything he worked for to just turn such a corner for him.
We were not part of his chapter at this juncture this was his final chapter his third chapter. We were not part of his chapter by this time they had already separated and so there was a lot that went on in his life
that I’m sure he was speaking on but we can’t attest it out because we weren’t part of that part of his journey.
Interviewer:
What were his last words to you on that phone call when he was locked up?
Usha:
I know someone’s trying to kill me so I refuse to eat the food in here. I’m not touching this food that’s why I’m fasting.A lot of this she’s emotional at this moment because a lot of this I don’t share a lot of this I don’t talk to people about. I don’t even tell my mother. I don’t talk to my sisters and brothers about it I’ve gathered a lot of information since his passing and before his passing because I had canceled my whole trip just to go to try to assist him and unfortunately I, those things I couldn’t end up going and I, I feel terrible I will always feel I’m not a person that has carries guilt but I know that that’s something that will always that I’ll always carry.
